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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11969</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sonagi,

Yes, I should have written more in the introduction. Thx for the advice.

Many western ppl believe there is no true news in China because of the heavy censorship. I actually have different experiences.

Yes, we have government censor, but the situation is really multi-facet. 

You can see this invisible hand banned, blocked and filtered the news in many emergent issues, like this one,
&lt;a href="http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/07/teachers-protest-in-guangzhou/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/07/teachers-protest-in-guangzhou/&lt;/a&gt;

However, perhaps China is too vast, or there are too many "naughty" journalists/bloggers, the invisible hand is not able to reach every conner, muff every voice. 

Moreover, when things are not so acute/crucial, it tends to close one eye. As long as a person doesn't generate a noise attracts massive attention,  s/he can largely enjoy the freedom of speech, even s/he talks about some sensitive political issues like democracy. 

Sometimes, I feel that ppl in China are able to enjoy more freedom in speech than ppl in Singapore. See this post,

&lt;a href="http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/12/some-singapore/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/12/some-singapore/&lt;/a&gt;

The story of CCTV you mentioned is not uncommon even in the central government's media. They just don't care as long as there is no massive attention. 

Hope my translations can help you see a different side of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sonagi,</p>
<p>Yes, I should have written more in the introduction. Thx for the advice.</p>
<p>Many western ppl believe there is no true news in China because of the heavy censorship. I actually have different experiences.</p>
<p>Yes, we have government censor, but the situation is really multi-facet. </p>
<p>You can see this invisible hand banned, blocked and filtered the news in many emergent issues, like this one,<br />
<a href="http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/07/teachers-protest-in-guangzhou/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/07/teachers-protest-in-guangzhou/</a></p>
<p>However, perhaps China is too vast, or there are too many &#8220;naughty&#8221; journalists/bloggers, the invisible hand is not able to reach every conner, muff every voice. </p>
<p>Moreover, when things are not so acute/crucial, it tends to close one eye. As long as a person doesn&#8217;t generate a noise attracts massive attention,  s/he can largely enjoy the freedom of speech, even s/he talks about some sensitive political issues like democracy. </p>
<p>Sometimes, I feel that ppl in China are able to enjoy more freedom in speech than ppl in Singapore. See this post,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/12/some-singapore/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/01/12/some-singapore/</a></p>
<p>The story of CCTV you mentioned is not uncommon even in the central government&#8217;s media. They just don&#8217;t care as long as there is no massive attention. </p>
<p>Hope my translations can help you see a different side of China.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11956</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you should subscribe to Global Voices Online then. It has all kind of voices from the world there. I am sure you can find the third voice you are looking for. 

The main site is
http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/

Here is a Chinese translation site,
http://blog.cnblog.org/gvo/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you should subscribe to Global Voices Online then. It has all kind of voices from the world there. I am sure you can find the third voice you are looking for. </p>
<p>The main site is<br />
<a href="http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/</a></p>
<p>Here is a Chinese translation site,<br />
<a href="http://blog.cnblog.org/gvo/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.cnblog.org/gvo/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; China and Africa: How China is viewed in Africa?</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11946</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; China and Africa: How China is viewed in Africa?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jacky Peng posts a survey from International Herald Leader on African’s Views On China.    Oiwan Lam [...]</description>
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		<title>By: davidpeng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11880</link>
		<dc:creator>davidpeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Sonagi. You caught the essence of Chinese media. They are playing a cat and mouse game. If you think all voices are aligned with the Party, that's not true. (This was almost true before 1978) Some journalists tried their best to communicate their messages to the smart readers under such heavy distraction. 
What's more, both the cat and mouse are equipped w/ hi-tech. And the whole society are becoming much opener. The censorship is lighter than before in the general sense, I feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Sonagi. You caught the essence of Chinese media. They are playing a cat and mouse game. If you think all voices are aligned with the Party, that&#8217;s not true. (This was almost true before 1978) Some journalists tried their best to communicate their messages to the smart readers under such heavy distraction.<br />
What&#8217;s more, both the cat and mouse are equipped w/ hi-tech. And the whole society are becoming much opener. The censorship is lighter than before in the general sense, I feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11837</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did initially but rethought my opinion after reading David's analysis.  If you analyze the structure and intended message of the articles, then I think your translations will have greater value.  There is news in the heavily restricted Chinese media if one is patient enough to look carefully.

I recall a news clip on the Indonesian presidential elections on CCTV 9.  Indonesia's economy and security are just a mess, yet every single Indonesian interviewed said that they supported the election.  Many commented, "Even if the president isn't any good, at least we get to pick him."  I was astonished to see such a pro-democracy piece on CCTV (albeit the English international channel) in a country whose leaders are not elected by the people.  I think somebody at CCTV slipped one past the censors, and I think that happens frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did initially but rethought my opinion after reading David&#8217;s analysis.  If you analyze the structure and intended message of the articles, then I think your translations will have greater value.  There is news in the heavily restricted Chinese media if one is patient enough to look carefully.</p>
<p>I recall a news clip on the Indonesian presidential elections on CCTV 9.  Indonesia&#8217;s economy and security are just a mess, yet every single Indonesian interviewed said that they supported the election.  Many commented, &#8220;Even if the president isn&#8217;t any good, at least we get to pick him.&#8221;  I was astonished to see such a pro-democracy piece on CCTV (albeit the English international channel) in a country whose leaders are not elected by the people.  I think somebody at CCTV slipped one past the censors, and I think that happens frequently.</p>
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		<title>By: davidpeng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11835</link>
		<dc:creator>davidpeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacky, you should be very cautious about compilation news about Sino-Africa relationship.
IMHO, I divided all news into three categories: the first one, news from western media; the second one, news from Chinese media; the third one, news from African media.
Currently I felt perhaps the western is too permistic toward Chinese's presence in the continent. The second sources represented some of Chinese interest, but it was dramatically distorted by the heavy censorship of China's propaganda department. In such circumstances, I want to dig the truth from the third voice. 
However, the third voice is quite diversed. And I didn't have the knowledge about the credibility and orientation of those news agencies since I am not expert on the African affair and have not read those media for long time.
For example, for China events, I can read news from Xinhua, BBC, VOA, zaobao, boxun, HK and TW media, etc. I know well about each agency's bias and find the truth much easier. However, returning to African topics I am almost blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacky, you should be very cautious about compilation news about Sino-Africa relationship.<br />
IMHO, I divided all news into three categories: the first one, news from western media; the second one, news from Chinese media; the third one, news from African media.<br />
Currently I felt perhaps the western is too permistic toward Chinese&#8217;s presence in the continent. The second sources represented some of Chinese interest, but it was dramatically distorted by the heavy censorship of China&#8217;s propaganda department. In such circumstances, I want to dig the truth from the third voice.<br />
However, the third voice is quite diversed. And I didn&#8217;t have the knowledge about the credibility and orientation of those news agencies since I am not expert on the African affair and have not read those media for long time.<br />
For example, for China events, I can read news from Xinhua, BBC, VOA, zaobao, boxun, HK and TW media, etc. I know well about each agency&#8217;s bias and find the truth much easier. However, returning to African topics I am almost blind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11833</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we have some misunderstandings here. Your first comment made me feel that you consider the report not worth reading.

Hope the style and structure of the report does not keep you away.

Though the report is talking about how African view China, to some extent, it actually reveals what China's perspective to Africa or the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we have some misunderstandings here. Your first comment made me feel that you consider the report not worth reading.</p>
<p>Hope the style and structure of the report does not keep you away.</p>
<p>Though the report is talking about how African view China, to some extent, it actually reveals what China&#8217;s perspective to Africa or the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11825</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie wrote:

&lt;i&gt;"Yes, BBC is a highly respected news medium, but that does not mean BBC is inherently free of bias. No matter how hard it strives to be impartial, it is constrained by its stance and background."&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed.  I never said the BBC was free of bias.  I said this:

&lt;i&gt;"The BBC is the most respected international medium, even more so than CNN, because it sincerely strives to be impartial "&lt;/i&gt;

"Most respected" and "strives to be impartial" do not mean "free of bias."

&lt;i&gt;"On the other hand, yes, IHL enjoys less freedom than BBC in choosing topics, editing and reporting, but that does not mean IHL can not make a good report on certain issues. The writing style and structure of this report may fall exactly on what propaganda is in your mind, but please don’t undervalue the effort and sincerity of the journalists who made this report. "&lt;/i&gt;

Please read my comments again.  I wrote:

&lt;i&gt;"I have tremendous respect for the risks that Chinese journalists take in order to inform Chinese society, "&lt;/i&gt;

"Tremendous respect" does not communicate any sense of undervaluing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Yes, BBC is a highly respected news medium, but that does not mean BBC is inherently free of bias. No matter how hard it strives to be impartial, it is constrained by its stance and background.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Indeed.  I never said the BBC was free of bias.  I said this:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The BBC is the most respected international medium, even more so than CNN, because it sincerely strives to be impartial &#8220;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Most respected&#8221; and &#8220;strives to be impartial&#8221; do not mean &#8220;free of bias.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;On the other hand, yes, IHL enjoys less freedom than BBC in choosing topics, editing and reporting, but that does not mean IHL can not make a good report on certain issues. The writing style and structure of this report may fall exactly on what propaganda is in your mind, but please don’t undervalue the effort and sincerity of the journalists who made this report. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Please read my comments again.  I wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I have tremendous respect for the risks that Chinese journalists take in order to inform Chinese society, &#8220;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Tremendous respect&#8221; does not communicate any sense of undervaluing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11824</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is unexpected that the BBC would be perceived as more trustworthy, credible, and objective than CNN, for not only is the BBC a state-owned media, there is no constitutional protection of freedom of speech like the First Amendment to the US Constitution.  

Explain how I am prejudiced against the Chinese media.  Are you denying that heavy press censorship exists?  I am not critical of the Chinese media per se.  Rather I am critical of the dejure and defacto legal conditions unfavorable to the Chinese media.

David Peng's analysis is insightful.  To understand news in the Chinese media, one must read between the lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is unexpected that the BBC would be perceived as more trustworthy, credible, and objective than CNN, for not only is the BBC a state-owned media, there is no constitutional protection of freedom of speech like the First Amendment to the US Constitution.  </p>
<p>Explain how I am prejudiced against the Chinese media.  Are you denying that heavy press censorship exists?  I am not critical of the Chinese media per se.  Rather I am critical of the dejure and defacto legal conditions unfavorable to the Chinese media.</p>
<p>David Peng&#8217;s analysis is insightful.  To understand news in the Chinese media, one must read between the lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11823</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and Won Joon have employed a strawman argument.  Dr. Lankov and I disagreed with Won Joon on the extent to which the extreme historical revisionist views expressed in those books were accepted by ordinary Koreans.  We never disputed that nationalism is a catalyst for conflict amongst Korea and its neighbors.

To the contrary, Dr. Lankov has written and commented extensively on nationalism in South and North Korea and has published articles on historical disputes between Korea and China in the international media.

On my bookshelves are numerous Korean and Chinese books on history and social sciences, including textbooks and other books written for adults and children.  Among my collection, you might have read a couple of very popular titles:  The Spirit of the Chinese People and My Country and My People.  I am fascinated by how people collectively construct national identities and how children construct national identities through experiences at school and in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and Won Joon have employed a strawman argument.  Dr. Lankov and I disagreed with Won Joon on the extent to which the extreme historical revisionist views expressed in those books were accepted by ordinary Koreans.  We never disputed that nationalism is a catalyst for conflict amongst Korea and its neighbors.</p>
<p>To the contrary, Dr. Lankov has written and commented extensively on nationalism in South and North Korea and has published articles on historical disputes between Korea and China in the international media.</p>
<p>On my bookshelves are numerous Korean and Chinese books on history and social sciences, including textbooks and other books written for adults and children.  Among my collection, you might have read a couple of very popular titles:  The Spirit of the Chinese People and My Country and My People.  I am fascinated by how people collectively construct national identities and how children construct national identities through experiences at school and in society.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11813</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David for the link. DanWei has made a roundup for the news media. I am thinking whether I should do one for the blogs and BBSs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David for the link. DanWei has made a roundup for the news media. I am thinking whether I should do one for the blogs and BBSs.</p>
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		<title>By: davidpeng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11801</link>
		<dc:creator>davidpeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The topic of sino-African relationship turned out so hot nowadays. I read this one in DanWei.org http://www.danwei.org/china_and_africa/hus_in_africa.php. The post compiled a long list of media coverage on Hu's ongoing visit to Africa. One of them, the report 'Why Beijing is winning in Africa' from Business Day of SA grasped my eyes. According to Dr. Moorcraft, China is a more moderate player compared w/ EU or US. Chinese came to Africa more on business than aid, and they treated African as equals(to some extent). Therefore, despite of danger of new imperialist, African are welcoming Chinese. Jacky, I think maybe you are interested in those articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topic of sino-African relationship turned out so hot nowadays. I read this one in DanWei.org <a href="http://www.danwei.org/china_and_africa/hus_in_africa.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.danwei.org/china_and_africa/hus_in_africa.php</a>. The post compiled a long list of media coverage on Hu&#8217;s ongoing visit to Africa. One of them, the report &#8216;Why Beijing is winning in Africa&#8217; from Business Day of SA grasped my eyes. According to Dr. Moorcraft, China is a more moderate player compared w/ EU or US. Chinese came to Africa more on business than aid, and they treated African as equals(to some extent). Therefore, despite of danger of new imperialist, African are welcoming Chinese. Jacky, I think maybe you are interested in those articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11795</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-)

Before I translate any copyright protected content, I will contact the company to get the permission. Usually, my request is like a stone thrown into sea--I got no response from those big western companies. So I was expecting the same when I was contacting the International Herald Leader, as I reckoned it's ran in a way more bureaucratically than those western companies. To my surprised, they replied me immediately and granted me the right to translate and publish the article here.

I hope this little experience might help change some readers' view on Chinese media also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Before I translate any copyright protected content, I will contact the company to get the permission. Usually, my request is like a stone thrown into sea&#8211;I got no response from those big western companies. So I was expecting the same when I was contacting the International Herald Leader, as I reckoned it&#8217;s ran in a way more bureaucratically than those western companies. To my surprised, they replied me immediately and granted me the right to translate and publish the article here.</p>
<p>I hope this little experience might help change some readers&#8217; view on Chinese media also.</p>
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		<title>By: davidpeng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11783</link>
		<dc:creator>davidpeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, regarding to the bias of news media. BBC's english version is much more balanced than its Chinese version. Interesting, eh? Another truth is , unlike CNN or Reuters, BBC is actually a state-owned company and  supported by tax-payers of Great Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, regarding to the bias of news media. BBC&#8217;s english version is much more balanced than its Chinese version. Interesting, eh? Another truth is , unlike CNN or Reuters, BBC is actually a state-owned company and  supported by tax-payers of Great Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11774</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"bao" somebody means "buy out" somebody.

Those are bad words.

Korean historical view crashed hard with China's this time.  

Won Joon Choe is right,

"And we don’t need Hegel nor Kojeve to tell us that, at least in East Asia, history often commingles with reality to produce an ugly brew between nations."

So we should,

"...talk about addressing this problem rather than intoning that it doesn’t exist."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bao&#8221; somebody means &#8220;buy out&#8221; somebody.</p>
<p>Those are bad words.</p>
<p>Korean historical view crashed hard with China&#8217;s this time.  </p>
<p>Won Joon Choe is right,</p>
<p>&#8220;And we don’t need Hegel nor Kojeve to tell us that, at least in East Asia, history often commingles with reality to produce an ugly brew between nations.&#8221;</p>
<p>So we should,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;talk about addressing this problem rather than intoning that it doesn’t exist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacky Peng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11770</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacky Peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sonagi,
 I was expecting someone will overlook the name of International Herald Leader (IHL), so I explicitly put the name Xinhua News Agency following IHL, hoping it can remind the readers. Nevertheless, you should not be surprised that IHL reaches much more readers than IHT does in China.

 I can see the prejudice of Chinese media from your remarks. 

Yes, BBC is a highly respected news medium, but that does not mean BBC is inherently free of bias. No matter how hard it strives to be impartial, it is constrained by its stance and background. 

On the other hand, yes, IHL enjoys less freedom than BBC in choosing topics, editing and reporting, but that does not mean IHL can not make a good report on certain issues. The writing style and structure of this report may fall exactly on what propaganda is in your mind, but please don't undervalue the effort and sincerity of the journalists who made this report. 

The report gives many specific figures, for example,
&gt;&gt;the total number of news on China reported by 32 mainstream media of 16 countries in Africa from this June to this July (2006), is 1192. The majority of those reports are either neutral or positive.

Furthermore, some of its advices not only are good for Chinese government, but also may be appropriate to some western governments. Read the last part of the report: China should put off pragmatism. If we change the subject of this sentence, what do you see?

David has made some valuable inputs above. In fact, I found his remarks might help you understand the report better.

Please be patient and complete reading the report, you may find many interesting points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sonagi,<br />
 I was expecting someone will overlook the name of International Herald Leader (IHL), so I explicitly put the name Xinhua News Agency following IHL, hoping it can remind the readers. Nevertheless, you should not be surprised that IHL reaches much more readers than IHT does in China.</p>
<p> I can see the prejudice of Chinese media from your remarks. </p>
<p>Yes, BBC is a highly respected news medium, but that does not mean BBC is inherently free of bias. No matter how hard it strives to be impartial, it is constrained by its stance and background. </p>
<p>On the other hand, yes, IHL enjoys less freedom than BBC in choosing topics, editing and reporting, but that does not mean IHL can not make a good report on certain issues. The writing style and structure of this report may fall exactly on what propaganda is in your mind, but please don&#8217;t undervalue the effort and sincerity of the journalists who made this report. </p>
<p>The report gives many specific figures, for example,<br />
>>the total number of news on China reported by 32 mainstream media of 16 countries in Africa from this June to this July (2006), is 1192. The majority of those reports are either neutral or positive.</p>
<p>Furthermore, some of its advices not only are good for Chinese government, but also may be appropriate to some western governments. Read the last part of the report: China should put off pragmatism. If we change the subject of this sentence, what do you see?</p>
<p>David has made some valuable inputs above. In fact, I found his remarks might help you understand the report better.</p>
<p>Please be patient and complete reading the report, you may find many interesting points.</p>
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		<title>By: davidpeng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11729</link>
		<dc:creator>davidpeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonagi, All are dirty words.

6P means 6 persons sex.

SB means fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonagi, All are dirty words.</p>
<p>6P means 6 persons sex.</p>
<p>SB means fool.</p>
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		<title>By: davidpeng</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11723</link>
		<dc:creator>davidpeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To some extent, I agree with Sonagi. When outsider observed Chinese's demonstration againt Japanese Government, most tend to bias it w/ government support, since Chinese government altually filterred all kinds of demonstrations. The same theory is applied to Chinese' Media. In fact I believe there are lots of truth and free speech in some reports, however, the censorship by propaganda department severely hurted Chinese Media's credibility.

Taking this report as example: first of all, that's a report in Chinese. Nobody knows if the article is to brain wash Chinese readers. If you can see the same article in China Daily in English, it will appear a bit more objective usually. As a thumb of rule of such article, the author should say some praise in the first part of the report. Such praise is unusual in western media, if one report is too positive, the editor will think this report is lack of attraction to readers. This article is well balanced with 4 positive to 4 negative. :-).

In the first positive item, Africans even applaud on Chinese's political system. What's a unusual question on one questionare! In African's point of view, they welcome each new-joiner as investor and buyer, especially the new-joiner has potentially very big appetite, which undoubtly strengthen their own positions.
I personally think the real intention of the author of this report is its second part and fourth part: the negative images and the discrepencies (including their reasons). This is what I mentioned "free speech" in Chinese media. While the sentences of positive images are full of propaganda slogans, the descriptions of negative image are quite concrete and in more detail.

This article is a good example to show the importance of Hibiscus Project. If you think western media has biased opinion on China's affair in Africa, and you surely don't want to be brain washed by article above, you may need other channels like Hibiscus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To some extent, I agree with Sonagi. When outsider observed Chinese&#8217;s demonstration againt Japanese Government, most tend to bias it w/ government support, since Chinese government altually filterred all kinds of demonstrations. The same theory is applied to Chinese&#8217; Media. In fact I believe there are lots of truth and free speech in some reports, however, the censorship by propaganda department severely hurted Chinese Media&#8217;s credibility.</p>
<p>Taking this report as example: first of all, that&#8217;s a report in Chinese. Nobody knows if the article is to brain wash Chinese readers. If you can see the same article in China Daily in English, it will appear a bit more objective usually. As a thumb of rule of such article, the author should say some praise in the first part of the report. Such praise is unusual in western media, if one report is too positive, the editor will think this report is lack of attraction to readers. This article is well balanced with 4 positive to 4 negative. :-).</p>
<p>In the first positive item, Africans even applaud on Chinese&#8217;s political system. What&#8217;s a unusual question on one questionare! In African&#8217;s point of view, they welcome each new-joiner as investor and buyer, especially the new-joiner has potentially very big appetite, which undoubtly strengthen their own positions.<br />
I personally think the real intention of the author of this report is its second part and fourth part: the negative images and the discrepencies (including their reasons). This is what I mentioned &#8220;free speech&#8221; in Chinese media. While the sentences of positive images are full of propaganda slogans, the descriptions of negative image are quite concrete and in more detail.</p>
<p>This article is a good example to show the importance of Hibiscus Project. If you think western media has biased opinion on China&#8217;s affair in Africa, and you surely don&#8217;t want to be brain washed by article above, you may need other channels like Hibiscus.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11720</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And "bao" as in to "bao" somebody is slang for sex, isn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And &#8220;bao&#8221; as in to &#8220;bao&#8221; somebody is slang for sex, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackypeng.com/blog/2007/02/04/how-china-is-viewed-in-africa/#comment-11719</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for you, Jackie:

I found this BBS thread mocking the nationalist exhibition by the Korean athletes:

http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/Content/funinfo/1/928735.shtml

What does P mean as in "only 200 kuai for 6 P?

And what does SB mean as in "SB bangzi"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for you, Jackie:</p>
<p>I found this BBS thread mocking the nationalist exhibition by the Korean athletes:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/Content/funinfo/1/928735.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/Content/funinfo/1/928735.shtml</a></p>
<p>What does P mean as in &#8220;only 200 kuai for 6 P?</p>
<p>And what does SB mean as in &#8220;SB bangzi&#8221;?</p>
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