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\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5e16\u5b50\u5927\u591a\u6570\u90fd\u7528\u4e86\u4e00\u4e9b\u76f8\u540c\u7684\u626b\u63cf\u56fe\uff0c\u8c61\u4e0b\u9762\u8fd9\u4e00\u5e45\u3002\uff08\u5728\u8fd9\u91cc<\/a>\u770b\u66f4\u591a\u7684\u56fe\uff09<\/p>\n \u6211\u4eec\u4f1f\u5927\u5510\u671d\u7684\u9886\u571f\u5728\u8fd9\u526f\u6240\u8c13\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u91cc\u88ab\u6324\u5230\u897f\u5357\u7684\u4e00\u89d2\u3002\u8fd9\u6fc0\u8d77\u56fd\u4eba\u65e0\u9650\u7684\u7231\u56fd\u70ed\u60c5\uff0c\u5bf9\u5982\u6b64\u201c\u65e0\u803b\u201d\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u5f53\u7136\u5c31\u6ca1\u6709\u4ec0\u4e48\u597d\u8bdd\u4e86\u3002<\/p>\n \u59d1\u4e14\u4e0d\u8bba\u5386\u53f2\u9057\u7559\u4e0b\u6765\u7684\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u56fe\u5230\u5e95\u662f\u4e0d\u662f\u771f\u6b63\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\uff1f<\/p>\n \u6211\u5c31\u6b64\u95ee\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u670b\u53cb\uff0c\u5f97\u5230\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u5426\u5b9a\u7684\u7b54\u6848\u3002<\/p>\n \u770b\u6765\u662f\u6709\u4eba\u6405\u6d51\u6c34\u3002<\/p>\n \u6211\u4e0d\u61c2\u97e9\u6587\uff0c\u53ea\u597d\u7528\u82f1\u6587\u53d1\u4e86\u8fd9\u4e00\u7bc7Are these from the real Korean textbook?<\/a>\uff0c\u95ee\u4e00\u4e0b\u5230\u5e95\u8fd9\u4e9b\u56fe\u662f\u600e\u4e48\u56de\u4e8b\u3002<\/p>\n \u5173\u6ce8\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u82f1\u6587\u7f51\u7ad9The Marmot\u2019s Hole<\/a>\u4f5c\u51fa\u56de\u5e94<\/a>\u3002R. Elgin<\/a>\u5199\u9053\uff0c<\/p>\n …pretty much the same accusation that is commonly made about the Chinese Government and their attempts to reinterpret or revise historical fact to suit their own political purposes.<\/p>\n \uff08\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\u5bf9\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u7684\u6307\u63a7\uff09\u8ddf\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u5bf9\u4e2d\u56fd\u653f\u5e9c\u7684\u6307\u63a7\u5f88\u76f8\u50cf\u3002\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u6307\u8d23\u4e2d\u56fd\u653f\u5e9c\u4e3a\u4e86\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u653f\u6cbb\u5229\u76ca\u800c\u7be1\u6539\u5386\u53f2\u4e8b\u5b9e\u3002<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n I wonder just where this sort of nonsense is going to go since it is undoubtedly indirectly sponsored by the Chinese Government or, rather I wonder if there is going to be a Chinese Dokdo in the future. <\/p>\n \u663e\u7136\u8fd9\u662f\u7531\u4e2d\u56fd\u653f\u5e9c\u80cc\u540e\u652f\u6301\u7684\u3002\u6211\u60f3\u77e5\u9053\u8fd9\u79cd\u8352\u5510\u7684\u4e1c\u897f\u4f1a\u8d70\u591a\u8fdc\uff0c\u6211\u66f4\u60f3\u77e5\u9053\u5c06\u6765\u4f1a\u4e0d\u4f1a\u51fa\u73b0\u4e00\u4e2a\u4e2d\u56fd\u201c\u72ec\u5c9b\u201d\u95ee\u9898\u3002<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n The Marmot\u5728little bridge\u4e0a\u7684\u7559\u8a00\u56de\u7b54\u5f97\u66f4\u8be6\u7ec6\uff0c <\/p>\n There are historians in Korea that make claims such as these\u2014one of the books is by the former vice-chancelor of Daejeon National University, while the others are by historian Oh Jae-seong\u2014but such claims are not widely accepted within the Korean historical community (as the Korean consulate in Shanghai explained when those maps first became news in China in May of last year). In fact, Koreans are much more concerned with what many consider to be creative map-making in Chinese textbooks (both in the PRC and the ROC)\u2014see here<\/a> and here<\/a>. <\/p>\n \u786e\u5b9e\u6709\u4e9b\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u662f\u8fd9\u4e48\u8ba4\u4e3a\u7684\u3002\u8fd9\u5176\u4e2d\u6709\u4e00\u672c\u4e66\u662f\u5927\u7530\u56fd\u7acb\u5927\u5b66\u7684\u524d\u526f\u6821\u957f\u5199\u7684\uff0c\u53e6\u5916\u7684\u4e66\u662f\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6Oh Jae-seong\u5199\u7684\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\u5e76\u6ca1\u4e3a\u97e9\u56fd\u5176\u4ed6\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u6240\u5e7f\u6cdb\u63a5\u53d7\uff08\u6b63\u5982\u97e9\u56fd\u9a7b\u4e0a\u6d77\u7684\u9886\u4e8b\u5728\u53bb\u5e745\u6708\u4efd\u8fd9\u4e9b\u56fe\u9996\u5148\u88ab\u65b0\u95fb\u62a5\u9053\u7684\u65f6\u5019\uff0c\u4ed6\u6240\u89e3\u91ca\u7684\u90a3\u6837\u3002\uff09\u4e8b\u5b9e\u4e0a\uff0c\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u5bf9\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\uff08\u5305\u62ec\u5171\u548c\u56fd\u548c\u6c11\u56fd\uff09\u5728\u5386\u53f2\u4e66\u4e0a\u7684\u521b\u610f\u66f4\u4e3a\u5173\u5fc3\uff0c\u8bf7\u770b\u8fd9\u91cc<\/a>\u548c\u8fd9\u91cc<\/a>\u3002<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Winne<\/a>\u8fd9\u4e48\u56de\u5e94\uff0c <\/p>\n The above books are not Korean textbooks. If it\u2019s an official textbook, it has the title \u201c\uad50\uacfc\uc11c\u201d. \u4ee5\u4e0a\u51e0\u672c\u4e66\u5e76\u4e0d\u662f\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u3002\u6b63\u5f0f\u7684\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u4e0a\u6709\u201c\uad50\uacfc\uc11c\u201d\u8fd9\u4e2a\u6807\u9898\u3002 <\/p>\n \u65e0\u8bba\u5982\u4f55\uff0c\u8fd9\u80af\u5b9a\u662f\u4e00\u4e9b\u602a\u4eba\uff08\u505a\u7684\uff09\uff0c\u5305\u62ec\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u3002\u6211\u662f\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\uff0c\u6211\u5e76\u6ca1\u6709\u770b\u8fc7\u90a3\u4e9b\u5730\u56fe\u3002<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n \u6765\u81ea\u83ab\u65af\u79d1\u7684Dr. Lankov\u56de\u5e94\u8bf4\uff0c <\/p>\n The map is from a book published by some marginal extremist group of ultra-nationalist amateur historians. Very few people in Korea (and nearly nobody in the professional community) would consider their wild claims seriously. Needless to say, nothing like it is to be found in Korean textbooks. There are some nationalist distortions in the textbooks, but on much, much smaller scale. <\/p>\n \u8fd9\u4e9b\u5730\u56fe\u662f\u7531\u5c11\u6570\u6781\u7aef\u6c11\u65cf\u4e3b\u4e49\u4e1a\u4f59\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u5236\u4f5c\u7684\u3002\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u5f88\u5c11\u4eba\uff08\u5728\u5b66\u672f\u5708\u91cc\u57fa\u672c\u4e0a\u6ca1\u6709\uff09\u4f1a\u628a\u4ed6\u4eec\u90a3\u4e9b\u75af\u72c2\u89c2\u70b9\u5f53\u56de\u4e8b\u3002\u4e0d\u7528\u8bf4\uff0c\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u91cc\u662f\u627e\u4e0d\u5230\u8fd9\u4e9b\u56fe\u7684\u3002\u5728\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u91cc\u4f1a\u6709\u4e9b\u6c11\u65cf\u6027\u7684\u504f\u5dee\uff0c\u4f46\u8fdc\u8fdc\u6ca1\u90a3\u4e48\u4e25\u91cd\u3002<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n \u6765\u81ea\u7f8e\u56fd\u7684Sonagi\u5148\u751f\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u4f4f\u4e86\u5f88\u591a\u5e74\uff0c\u540e\u6765\u53c8\u8fc1\u5c45\u9752\u5c9b4\u5e74\u3002Sonagi\u5148\u751f\u638c\u63e1\u82f1\u6587\uff0c\u4e2d\u6587\u548c\u97e9\u6587\u3002\u4ed6\u5e2e\u5fd9\u627e\u51fa\u5f88\u591a\u6709\u4ef7\u503c\u7684\u8d44\u6599\u3002 <\/p>\n The second image, a book with a yellow cover, is of a book published in 2002 by a retired history professor. The poor-quality color maps (notice that the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido seems to be missing) may have been created by the author, Professor Lim. All of the other black-and-white images http:\/\/bbs.news.163.com\/mil\/968958,52.html<\/a> ) circulating around Chinese websites are from several books or maps published by the same author, historian Oh Jaesung. The materials were published many years ago, not recently, and one of the images looks doctored. <\/p>\n They are NOT textbooks and the maps and views of history published in these books is scoffed at by mainstream historians … <\/p>\n \uff08\u4e0a\u9762\uff09\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5e45\u56fe\uff0c\u5c31\u662f\u9ec4\u8272\u5c01\u9762\u7684\u90a3\u672c\u4e66\u662f\u7531\u4e00\u4e2a\u9000\u4f11\u6559\u6388\u57282002\u5e74\u51fa\u7248\u7684\u3002 <\/p>\n \u90a3\u4e9b\u8d28\u91cf\u4e0d\u597d\u7684\u5f69\u56fe\u5927\u6982\u662f\u90a3\u4e2a\u4f5c\u8005\uff0cLim\u6559\u6388\u5236\u4f5c\u7684\uff08\u8bf7\u6ce8\u610f\u4e0a\u9762\u597d\u50cf\u6ca1\u6709\u65e5\u672c\u5317\u90e8\u7684Hokkaido\u5c9b\uff09\u3002\u5176\u5b83\u5728\u4e2d\u56fd\u7f51\u4e0a\u6d41\u4f20\u7684\u9ed1\u767d\u56fe\u7247\u662f\u51fa\u81ea\u540c\u4e00\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6Oh Jaesung\u51fa\u7248\u7684\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u51e0\u672c\u4e66\u6216\u5730\u56fe\u518c\u3002 <\/p>\n \u8fd9\u4e9b\u90fd\u662f\u5f88\u591a\u5e74\u524d\u5370\u7684\u6750\u6599\u4e86\uff0c\u4e0d\u662f\u6700\u8fd1\u51fa\u7248\u7684\u3002\u5176\u4e2d\u6709\u4e00\u5e45\u56fe\u770b\u8d77\u6765\u88ab\u4eba\u4fee\u6539\u8fc7\u3002 <\/p>\n \u90a3\u4e9b\u90fd\u4e0d\u662f<\/strong>\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u3002\u97e9\u56fd\u4e3b\u6d41\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u5f88\u9119\u89c6\u90a3\u4e9b\u5730\u56fe\u548c\u76f8\u5e94\u7684\u89c2\u70b9…<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n \u70ed\u5fc3\u7684Sonagi\u8fd8\u628a\u4ed6\u6536\u96c6\u7684\u771f\u6b63\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u626b\u63cf\u5e76\u4e0a\u4f20\u5230\u7f51\u4e0a\uff0c<\/p>\n \u8fd9\u662f\u7531\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u80b2\u90e8\u6279\u51c6\u76842002\u5e74\u7248\u9ad8\u4e2d\u5386\u53f2\u8bfe\u672c\u91cc\u7684\u4e00\u5e45\u5386\u53f2\u5730\u56fe<\/p>\n \u540c\u4e00\u672c\u8bfe\u672c\u4e2d\u5510\u4ee3\u7684\u4e1c\u5317\u548c\u671d\u9c9c\u534a\u5c9b\u7684\u5730\u56fe<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<\/p>\n 1952\u5e74\u7248\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u8bfe\u672c\u4e2d\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u5730\u56fe\u3002<\/p>\n<\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u5230\u6b64\u4e3a\u6b62\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u53ef\u4ee5\u786e\u8ba4\u90a3\u4e9b\u4e0d\u662f\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u3002<\/p>\n \u97e9\u6d41\u5728\u4e2d\u56fd\u5230\u5904\u5439\uff0c\u4f46\u5f88\u591a\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\u5bf9\u97e9\u56fd\u8fd8\u662f\u5f88\u4e0d\u4e86\u89e3\u3002\u6709\u4eba\u5229\u7528\u8fd9\u70b9\u5236\u9020\u7f51\u4e0a\u4e8b\u7aef\u3002\u6211\u4e0d\u5927\u76f8\u4fe1\u8fd9\u662f\u4e2d\u56fd\u653f\u5e9c\u6216\u662f\u65e5\u672c\u653f\u5e9c\u7684\u9634\u8c0b\uff0c\u6211\u66f4\u503e\u5411\u4e8e\u76f8\u4fe1\u8fd9\u662f\u6709\u7684\u4eba\u4e3a\u4e86\u5438\u5f15\u773c\u7403\u800c\u65e0\u4e8b\u751f\u975e\u3002<\/p>\n \u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u7684\u771f\u4f2a\u95ee\u9898\u89e3\u51b3\u4e86\uff0c\u4f46Won Joon Choe<\/cite>\u5148\u751f\u5728\u8ba8\u8bba\u4e2d\u63d0\u51fa\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u5f88\u8ba9\u4eba\u6df1\u601d\u7684\u95ee\u9898\uff0c<\/p>\n Dr. Lankov and Sonagi,<\/p>\n As a Korean citizen who is unusually attached to his patria in this rootless age of ours, I appreciate that you two are doing a yeoman\u2019s work in defending the sanity of the contemporary Korean historical consciousness. Nor am I surprised by your attempt to inject some perspective here, for you two are both among the most balanced and rational commenters in the Korean Blogsophere\u2013where rationality is often an orphan. But I cannot in good conscience agree with the seeming thrust of your message.<\/p>\n Namely, I object to your seeming effort to simply dismiss these outrageous Korean historical claims on China as rantings of a lunatic fringe. There is a point at which a well-meaning defense transmogrifies into an unreflective apology that refuses to believe that Rome is indeed burning. May I be as bold as to even say, to reverse Burke\u2019s elegant formula, sometimes our helper is our adversary? For instance, speaking from my own intellectual background in political philosophy, the one-sided apology of Nietzsche as purely an aesthete to counter the fascist accusations by Walter Kauffman (or the attempt to portray Leo Strauss as an ordinary \u201cliberal\u201d rather than the father of neoconservatism by his legion of defenders) have distorted Nietzsche as much as corrected pernicious misperceptions of him. <\/p>\n \uff08Won Joon Choe<\/cite>\u5148\u751f\u5728\u4e0a\u9762\u4e24\u6bb5\u6587\u5b57\u91cc\u8bf4\uff0cDr. Lankov\u548cSonagi\u662f\u97e9\u8bed\u535a\u5ba2\u5708\u91cc\u5c11\u6570\u7406\u6027\u7684\u4eba\u3002\u4ed6\u7406\u89e3\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u597d\u610f\uff0c\u4f46\u4ed6\u4eec\u628a\u90a3\u51e0\u4e2a\u97e9\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\u8bc4\u8bba\u4e3a\u6781\u7aef\u5206\u5b50\u7684\u72c2\u568e\uff08rantings of a lunatic fringe\uff09\uff0c\u5e76\u5bf9\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e0d\u5c51\u4e00\u987e\uff0c\u8fd9\u5374\u6709\u53ef\u80fd\u4e0d\u5229\u4e8e\u5927\u5bb6\u5bf9\u95ee\u9898\u7684\u7406\u89e3\u3002\uff09 <\/p>\n And likewise, the fact of the matter is this: There is a serious disconnect between the South Korean public historical consciousness and what most impartial scholars posit as Korean history. Moreover, much of that disconnect does involve the size and power of ancient Korean kingdoms of Gojoseon or Koguryo. While it is true that no textbook (as far as I know) claim that the Chinese heartland used to be Korean, such a belief is ubiquitous in the popular culture. I have certainly encountered numerous Korean students living abroad who believe it and blame Chinese chroniclers and their Korean sycophants for distorting the true Korean history. <\/p>\n \u540c\u6837\uff0c\u4e8b\u5b9e\u662f\uff1a\u5357\u97e9\u516c\u4f17\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u8ba4\u8bc6\u4e0e\u5927\u591a\u6570\u516c\u6b63\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u6240\u8ba4\u4e3a\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u6709\u5f88\u5927\u7684\u5dee\u5f02\u3002\u800c\u4e14\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5dee\u5f02\u5f88\u591a\u90fd\u8ddf\u53e4\u4ee3\u97e9\u56fd\u9ad8\u53e5\u4e3d\u7684\u5927\u5c0f\u4e0e\u5f71\u54cd\u6709\u5173\u3002\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u786e\u5b9e\u6ca1\u6709\u8bfe\u672c\uff08\u81f3\u5c11\u6309\u7167\u6211\u7684\u8ba4\u8bc6\uff09\u628a\u4e2d\u56fd\u4e2d\u539f\u5730\u5e26\u5212\u4e3a\u4ee5\u524d\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u9886\u571f\uff0c\u4f46\u8fd9\u79cd\u89c2\u70b9\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u5927\u4f17\u6587\u5316\u91cc\u5374\u666e\u904d\u5b58\u5728\u3002\u6211\u5c31\u9047\u5230\u65e0\u6570\u7684\u4f4f\u5728\u56fd\u5916\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u5b66\u751f\u76f8\u4fe1\u8fd9\u79cd\u89c2\u70b9\u3002\u8fd9\u4e9b\u97e9\u56fd\u5b66\u751f\u6307\u8d23\u4e2d\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u548c\u97e9\u5978\u4eec\u6b6a\u66f2\u4e86\u771f\u6b63\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u3002 <\/p>\n In fact, as I have written elsewhere, such a view is the standard view among Korean television historical dramas. In \u201cYeon Gaesomun,\u201d perhaps the most anticipated and costliest Korean historical drama of all-time, it is explicitly said that China was Korean land in the time of Gojoseon. And in the context of the drama, this is advanced as a historical fact, not fiction. Likewise, in an upcoming drama about Dangun, the putative mythic founder of Gojoseon, Dangun\u2019s territory supposedly spanned from Tibet to Sakhalin. And online Korean historical fora are absolutely replete with a similar historical understanding. <\/p>\n \u4e8b\u5b9e\u4e0a\uff0c\u5c31\u5982\u6211\u5728\u5176\u5b83\u5730\u65b9\u63d0\u5230\u8fc7\u7684\u90a3\u6837\uff0c\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u7535\u89c6\u5267\u91cc\u8fd9\u79cd\u89c2\u70b9\u662f\u4e3b\u6d41\u3002\u5728\u4e5f\u8bb8\u662f\u6709\u53f2\u4ee5\u6765\u6700\u53d7\u77a9\u76ee\u548c\u6700\u6602\u8d35\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u7535\u89c6\u5267\u300a\u6e0a\u76d6\u82cf\u6587\u300b\u91cc\u5c31\u660e\u660e\u767d\u767d\u5730\u8bf4\u4e2d\u56fd\u5728\u9ad8\u53e5\u4e3d\u65f6\u671f\u662f\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u9886\u5730\u3002\u5728\u6574\u4e2a\u7535\u89c6\u5267\u7684\u5267\u60c5\u90fd\u628a\u8fd9\u4ef6\u4e8b\u662f\u5f53\u4f5c\u5386\u53f2\u4e8b\u5b9e\uff0c\u800c\u4e0d\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u865a\u6784\u7684\u8bf7\u8282\u3002\u540c\u6837\uff0c\u5728\u5373\u5c06\u64ad\u51fa\u7684\u6709\u5173\u6a80\u541b\u7684\u7535\u89c6\u5267\u91cc\uff0c\u6a80\u541b\u5c31\u5927\u7ea6\u62e5\u6709\u8de8\u8d8a\u4ece\u897f\u85cf\u5230\u5e93\u9875\u5c9b\u7684\u7586\u571f\u3002\uff08\u6a80\u541b\u662f\u4f20\u8bf4\u4e2d\u9ad8\u53e5\u4e3d\u795e\u79d8\u7684\u5f00\u56fd\u56fd\u541b\uff09\u3002\u5728\u97e9\u56fd\u7f51\u4e0a\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u8bba\u575b\u91cc\u5230\u5904\u90fd\u5145\u65a5\u7740\u7c7b\u4f3c\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u89c2\u70b9\u3002 <\/p>\n So we do have a serious problem in the South Korean historical consciousness or imagination. And we don\u2019t need Hegel nor Kojeve to tell us that, at least in East Asia, history often commingles with reality to produce an ugly brew between nations. So I propose that we talk about addressing this problem rather than intoning that it doesn\u2019t exist. <\/p>\n \u56e0\u6b64\uff0c\u5728\u6211\u4eec\u7684\u5357\u97e9\u5386\u53f2\u89c2\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u4e25\u91cd\u7684\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u81f3\u5c11\u5728\u4e1c\u4e9a\uff0c\u7528\u4e0d\u7740\u9ed1\u683c\u5c14\uff08Hegel\uff09\u6216\u79d1\u8036\u592b\uff08Kojeve\uff09\u63d0\u9192\u6211\u4eec\u5c31\u53ef\u4ee5\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u5386\u53f2\u603b\u662f\u548c\u73b0\u5b9e\u7ea0\u7f20\u5728\u4e00\u8d77\u917f\u6210\u5404\u56fd\u7684\u82e6\u9152\u3002\u5c31\u6b64\u6211\u63d0\u8bae\u6211\u4eec\u6765\u804a\u804a\u8fd9\u4e2a\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u800c\u4e0d\u662f\u4e00\u8def\u9ad8\u6b4c\uff0c\u88c5\u7740\u95ee\u9898\u4e0d\u5b58\u5728\u3002 <\/p>\n <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n Won Joon Choe<\/cite>\u5148\u751f\u8fd9\u4e00\u5927\u7bc7\u6587\u5b57\u5f88\u6709\u201c\u4f17\u4eba\u7686\u9189\u6211\u72ec\u9192\u201d\u7684\u5473\u9053\u3002\u6211\u5f88\u4f69\u670d\u4ed6\u7684\u6e05\u9192\u4e0e\u6df1\u523b\u3002 <\/p>\n \u73b0\u4ee3\u79d1\u6280\u53d1\u8fbe\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5f88\u5bb9\u6613\u5c31\u80fd\u63a5\u89e6\u5230\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u4fe1\u606f\u3002\u6709\u4e9b\u95ee\u9898\u53ea\u8981\u6211\u4eec\u7a0d\u52a0\u5206\u6790\u5c31\u4e0d\u96be\u5206\u8fa8\u51fa\u662f\u4e8b\u5b9e\u8fd8\u662f\u8c0e\u8a00\uff0c\u5c31\u50cf\u8fd9\u6b21\u6211\u53d1\u73b0\u6709\u4eba\u628a\u51e0\u672c\u97e9\u56fd\u4e66\u653e\u5728\u7f51\u4e0a\u5192\u5145\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u6765\u6311\u8d77\u4e8b\u7aef\u4e00\u6837\u3002 <\/p>\n \u4f46\u662f\u4e16\u754c\u4e0a\u5f88\u591a\u7684\u4e8b\u60c5\u5e76\u4e0d\u4f1a\u56e0\u4e3a\u79d1\u6280\u53d1\u5c55\u800c\u53d8\u5f97\u7b80\u5355\u3002\u540c\u5f88\u591a\u5176\u4ed6\u7684\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\u4e00\u6837\uff0c\u65e0\u8bba\u4ee5\u524d\u63a5\u89e6\u5230\u7684\u662f\u4e8b\u5b9e\u8fd8\u662f\u8c0e\u8a00\uff0c\u5bf9\u4e8e\u4e2d\u56fd\u7684\u611f\u60c5\u5df2\u7ecf\u6df1\u6df1\u5730\u624e\u5728\u5fc3\u91cc\u3002\u6211\u4e0d\u80fd\u514d\u4fd7\uff0c\u53d7\u5230\u4e00\u70b9\u70b9\u523a\u6fc0<\/a>\u5c31\u4f1a\u70ed\u8840\u6cb8\u817e\uff0c\u8fd9\u65f6\u5019\u4efb\u4f55\u7684\u51b7\u9759\u5206\u6790\u90fd\u65e0\u6d4e\u4e8e\u4e8b\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5fc3\u4e2d\u5df2\u6709\u7b54\u6848\uff1a\u8c01\u4e0d\u5e0c\u671b\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u7956\u56fd\u597d\u5462\uff1f <\/p>\n \u4e89\u6267\u662f\u96be\u4ee5\u907f\u514d\u3002\u8fd9\u65f6\u5019\u5b58\u7740\u4e00\u4efd\u5f00\u653e\u7684\u5fc3\u800c\u8fdb\u884c\u6c9f\u901a\u5c31\u663e\u5f97\u5f25\u8db3\u73cd\u8d35\uff0c\u800c\u4e14\u5f88\u591a\u65f6\u5019\u662f\u5fc5\u4e0d\u53ef\u5c11\u7684\u4e86\u3002<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" \u524d\u6bb5\u65f6\u95f4\u6211\u5728\u5f88\u591a\u8bba\u575b\u4e0a\u770b\u5230\u6709\u5173\u97e9\u56fd\u5386\u53f2\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u7684\u5e16\u5b50\u3002 http:\/\/cn.bbs.yahoo.com\/message\/read_funny_741345.htmlhttp:\/\/bbs.military.china.com\/jsp\/pub\/staticFile\/htmls\/2006\/10\/1011\/5893993_page0.html http:\/\/www.fyjs.cn\/bbs\/read.php?tid=81274http:\/\/military.club.china.com\/jsp\/pub\/staticFile\/htmls\/2006\/12\/1011\/6848404_page0.html http:\/\/free.21cn.com\/forum\/bbsMessageList.act?currentPage=1&bbsThreadId=1528356 http:\/\/bbs.wenxin8.com\/read.php?tid=87621http:\/\/bbs.military.china.com\/jsp\/pub\/staticFile\/htmls\/2006\/10\/1011\/5893993_page0.html http:\/\/bbs6.news.163.com\/board\/rep2.jsp?b=zhongri&i=982873 \u8fd9\u4e9b\u5e16\u5b50\u5927\u591a\u6570\u90fd\u7528\u4e86\u4e00\u4e9b\u76f8\u540c\u7684\u626b\u63cf\u56fe\uff0c\u8c61\u4e0b\u9762\u8fd9\u4e00\u5e45\u3002\uff08\u5728\u8fd9\u91cc\u770b\u66f4\u591a\u7684\u56fe\uff09 \u6211\u4eec\u4f1f\u5927\u5510\u671d\u7684\u9886\u571f\u5728\u8fd9\u526f\u6240\u8c13\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\u91cc\u88ab\u6324\u5230\u897f\u5357\u7684\u4e00\u89d2\u3002\u8fd9\u6fc0\u8d77\u56fd\u4eba\u65e0\u9650\u7684\u7231\u56fd\u70ed\u60c5\uff0c\u5bf9\u5982\u6b64\u201c\u65e0\u803b\u201d\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u5f53\u7136\u5c31\u6ca1\u6709\u4ec0\u4e48\u597d\u8bdd\u4e86\u3002 \u59d1\u4e14\u4e0d\u8bba\u5386\u53f2\u9057\u7559\u4e0b\u6765\u7684\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u56fe\u5230\u5e95\u662f\u4e0d\u662f\u771f\u6b63\u7684\u97e9\u56fd\u6559\u79d1\u4e66\uff1f \u6211\u5c31\u6b64\u95ee\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u97e9\u56fd\u4eba\u670b\u53cb\uff0c\u5f97\u5230\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u5426\u5b9a\u7684\u7b54\u6848\u3002 \u770b\u6765\u662f\u6709\u4eba\u6405\u6d51\u6c34\u3002 \u6211\u4e0d\u61c2\u97e9\u6587\uff0c\u53ea\u597d\u7528\u82f1\u6587\u53d1\u4e86\u8fd9\u4e00\u7bc7Are these from the real Korean textbook?\uff0c\u95ee\u4e00\u4e0b\u5230\u5e95\u8fd9\u4e9b\u56fe\u662f\u600e\u4e48\u56de\u4e8b\u3002 \u5173\u6ce8\u97e9\u56fd\u7684\u82f1\u6587\u7f51\u7ad9The Marmot\u2019s Hole\u4f5c\u51fa\u56de\u5e94\u3002R. 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