{"id":64,"date":"2006-05-26T18:12:00","date_gmt":"2006-05-26T10:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jackypeng.com\/blog\/2006\/05\/26\/some-chinese-comments-on-a-singapore-sep-girls-blog\/"},"modified":"2006-05-28T09:23:52","modified_gmt":"2006-05-28T01:23:52","slug":"singapore-china-web-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jackypeng.com\/blog\/2006\/05\/singapore-china-web-war\/","title":{"rendered":"Singapore-China web war"},"content":{"rendered":"

A homesick Singapore exchange student was getting some bad time in Xi’an and posted some explicitive laden negative complains on her blog. These entries were cross-posted in Tianya.cn<\/a>. It spurred a (small) uproar on Chinese internet.
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\nMany people have this view on Tomorrow.sg<\/a> – a Singapore meta blog, another place the home sick girl was discussed.<\/a><\/p>\n

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the people of china can be very nationalistic and any attacks on their beloved country(or anything to do with it) spells trouble for the critic.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I also expected to see lots of attacks on the SEP girl when I came to Tianya.cn<\/a>. But I am quite surprised to see that almost half of the Chinese comments are neutral actually, and close to one fourth of them support the girl to some extent.<\/p>\n

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Quite a number of ppl said it was not right to cross-post other’s blog without the author’s consent.<\/p>\n

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That is a comment of its kinds. Generally, it means:<\/p>\n

Whatever she wrote was her business. She wrote in her personal blog and did not post in a public forum. It was no good to cross-post other’s blog without the author’s consent.<\/p>\n

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Many ppl shared this point of view, “She just a immature girl, no big deal.”<\/p>\n

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This guy said, “When I read, ‘I learnt that in China, 80% of the ppl are BAD.’ I laughed. No big deal, just a primary school girl.”<\/p>\n

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This comment read, “She’s just a spoiled girl, inexperience. However, she did not make up the stories.”<\/p>\n

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…<\/p>\n

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This one read, “She is just a spoiled student studying abroad, not able to adapt to the change, and complain about everything. China ppl love China; Singapore ppl love Singapore; that is natural. Her language was too extreme. However, she put it in her personal blog. … Don’t get angry. Some of what she said are truth. We should work hard on these. … Hope Singaporean or ppl from other countries would die to come to China for education one day.<\/p>\n

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Some ppl even reminded that many ppl in China have similar complains and ppl need to do a lot to make China a better country. <\/p>\n

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This guy said, “What about our own speech? We openly insulted Cantonese, Hunanese, Shanghainese, etc. on the internet too. She just made some complains in her blog. Who is better?”<\/p>\n

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This commented, “Some guys just picked those worst words to translate. That is not honest and kind. It’s obvious that they were trying to make trouble. … There are lots of things for us to improve. … In terms of hardware, we need to catch up. Just don’t like she said 80% Chinese were bad.<\/p>\n

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This one is long. Here are some of my translations,<\/p>\n

\n“I am studying in Singapore, at the same university…
\nCompared with Singapore, China needs to improve lots of things.
\nAnd she stayed far from home along, she is uncomfortable to anything not familiar.
\n…Her language was too extreme on the net, she might not consider what China ppl would think after reading.
\n…She did not understand the point of the Student Exchange Program. Maybe it reflects the flaws of Singapore’s education system too.
\nExcept those irrational parts, her comments on China are not irrelevant.
\n1. Should we review our education system. …
\n2. Does the One-child Policy make negative influence on personal development?
\n3. Is our society corrupting, losing trust between its members? …
\n4. When we get any negative feedback from others, shall we just think of fighting back? …
\n1. I am sure, Xi’an is not the best city in China, but it is not that bad in many aspects. (compared with some other cities.)
\n2. Singaporean does not discriminate China ppl. On the contrary, they are very friendly and sincere to China ppl.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\nThough superangry cross-posted the blog, she did not release the SEP girl’s email address or blog link even when a few ppl kept asking for it. <\/p>\n

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Chinese net users are getting mature. ppl who study or travel to Singapore help others understand the situation better.\n<\/p>\n

\nSometimes even a friend who have been to Singapore can help ppl clear the misunderstanding between both sides.
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\nGlobalization helps people become more tolerant and accommodating.
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\nEven such web war will help people understand each other better.<\/p>\n

\nHowever, I would say, fortunately, the SEP girl is not a Japanese student.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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